Wednesday, February 19, 2014

Best Price - Bosch JS470E 120-Volt 7.0-Amp Top-Handle Jigsaw

Product Description

Bosch's 7.0-amp top-handle jigsaw has a tool less blade-change system, an ambidextrous lock-on button, a variable speed-dial, a large, sturdy die-cast foot with steel insert, an exclusive multi-directional blade clamp, an internal precision control, constant response circuitry, four orbital-action settings, an adjustable dust blower, an ergonomic top handle, and includes a non-marring overshoe, an anti-splinter insert, a blade, a bevel wrench, and a carrying case


Product Details

  • Amazon Sales Rank: #3120 in Home Improvement
  • Color: Blue
  • Brand: Bosch
  • Model: JS470E
  • Number of items: 1
  • Dimensions: .0" h x.0" w x.0" l,.0 pounds

Features

  • Tool-less blade-change system, fast insertion, blade ejection lever eliminates need to touch hot blade
  • Four orbital-action settings provide different blade strokes for smooth to aggressive cuts
  • Dial sets maximum speed and accelerator trigger controls operating speed
  • Large, sturdy die-cast foot with steel insert and on-board bevel wrench, secure clamping system
  • Precision-machined plunging system and low-vibration design enhances accuracy

Customer Reviews

Most helpful customer reviews

67 of 71 people found the following review helpful.
5Expected Quality from Bosch
By MakitaGuy
I have been doing DIY projects for years and recently resorted to borrowing a jigsaw from family/friends because my old Makita died(sob). I have mainly used the Bosch 1590EVSK and the Makita 4350FCT. Both are excellent saws, yet I would probably have to give the edge to the Swiss, which deeply saddens me due to the loyalty I have to my name-sake. Looking to finally re-purchase a jigsaw, I hoped to find a new model of the 1590, but disappointed to find that they have discontinued the 1590EVSK and identified the JS470E as the new model to replace the old model's price point. (The 1590EVSK isn't technically discontinued as it will be re-released as the 1590/1591 EVSL models that feature a new stacking L-Boxx case but will increase the price point close to the $200.00 mark) I don't care about stacking my cases (Since nearly every tool I own is a Makita) and decided that I will give the JS470E a try.

First Thoughts vs. 1590: The tool is still made in Switzerland, which sometimes is not the case with Bosch products. The tool is missing the visible precision control (PC) function that clamps the blade right above the foot for added blade stability and is replaced with a supposed "internal precision control". The tool-less foot bevel has been replaced with an on-board bevel wrench. The rubber grips have expanded to cover the 7 amp motor which later proved useful and creates greater visual appeal. Still no light (seriously?). Also, the end of the blade appears to pitch forward.

While I was initially concerned that I was going to lose blade stability with the "internal precision control", I was delighted to find that I was able to accurately cut a series of tight turns outlined with a sharpie on a 2"x6" I had lying around. Maybe it was the Progressor blade that I was using, but if I can control the jigsaw without seeing any black marks left on the wood, I could care less about a visible PC; in fact, it just means one less thing to do before using the tool. I even used the grip on the barrel for added control, which was a really neat touch added to the saw. I then proceeded to make stop cuts to determine if the blade pitch effected the end cut. Setting the orbital action setting to 0, I measured the top and the bottom of 4 different cuts (Same 2"x 6" and there was no difference in the length. The tool-less bevel vs. using a hex key means nothing to me. I have never, will probably never use the bevel function on my jigsaw. If getting a 45 degree cut is that important to you, you should probably own other tools that can make that cut more accurately than with a jigsaw. The blower was a nice feature and actually works, but I was very disappointed that there is no light since nearly every other brand of jigsaw (even lesser quality brands) has an LED light. I doubt I will ever use a jigsaw in the dark, so I guess this is just a minor gripe. The one touch blade change is unchanged, which is a good thing. This is probably my favorite feature of the saw, I just get so much satisfaction in shifting the lever and having the saw eject the blade. The case is sturdy and has storage for more blades than you will ever need for a job.

The JS470E has the same size, feel, and weight that I loved about the 1590. It is quiet for a jigsaw and does a great job at minimizing the vibration. I purchased mine for $139.99 and I am extremely happy with it. It doesn't have the years of rave reviews like the 1590 model, but I am not willing to pay the extra $50.00 for a fancy box and differences that I cannot replicate with the tests I did with it and the few projects I completed. Both saws would get 5 stars from me, I'd be happy to own either one.

45 of 48 people found the following review helpful.
5Extremely smooth and powerful
By Tooner
This is a great saw. Like a previous reviewer I too upgraded from a Skill jigsaw. That saw was the last tool that I would reach for and tried to avoid using. It vibrated and jumped around in your hand. It would not cut straight up and down no matter how you adjusted the shoe. The blade wander was awful.

Needing to finish a project I was working on and no time to wait for shipping I had to buy from a big box store. I read the reviews here first and went out to the big box store looking for the highly rated Bosch EVK1590. But both of the big box stores no longer carries that saw. This saw is evidently it's replacement. A third local pro-dealer could no longer get that saw from their supplier either. So if you want one, you better buy it from Amazon while they are still in stock.

I came home with the JS470E. I looked up the reviews on here before unpacking the saw. One reviewer was not pleased with the saw because the shoe would not adjust to cut at precisely 45 degrees. Ouch! I decided that I would try it anyway.

My immediate need was to rip 6 foot long slow arcs into 2x6 cedar for a garden arbor. The saw easily handled that. The blade was rock solid and my cuts were true over the length of the arcs. I followed that with several more curved decorative cuts. They all came out beautiful. I can guarantee my old Skill model would have made a mess of them.

This saw is hefty and solid feeling in your hand. It sounds and feels very powerful, and yet, oh so smooth at the same time. I would say that it seems pretty quiet for a jigsaw. It does not jump around in your hand and the vibration is nicely damped. The blower did a good job of keeping my cut line clear of sawdust. Overall a very high quality saw and a pleasure to use. Did I mention how smooth it is?

***This is an edit. When I originally reviewed this saw I stated that I agreed with another reviewer that this saw would not cut a 45 degree angle. I was wrong. I normally would not use a jig saw for a 45 but thought I would check it out. I adjusted the shoe to it's angle limit and cut a 2x2. I then butted the cut ends together and wound up with an acute angle. I should have known right then, but I evidently wasn't thinking clearly when I agreed with that review.

I thought this was odd for a saw from Bosch. It was bugging me. Back out to the shop I went. I made several more cuts. The good news is that it actually cuts beyond 45 degrees at the limit. It cuts at about 48 degrees at the limit with the shoe adjusted in either direction. So you have to back off from the limit a little bit to get a 45. Detents at 45 degrees would be nice, if cutting 45s with a jig saw is something you frequently do.***

My only other gripe would be that there is no led light built into the saw. Even the economy saws have that, and it would be nice to have a little extra light on the blade and your cut line. However I knew that when I bought it, so no point deduction is being assessed.

The jig saw is no longer my most hated tool. I now bestow that honer upon my crappy sander.

67 of 78 people found the following review helpful.
5Used to depend on reviews here...
By Joseph K. Bagdonas
I'm in the market for a new jig saw, and naturally browsed the Internet to find the most popular, with good reviews on them. I shop amazon frequently, so naturally I got drawn here through Google links.

Reading the reviews here, and how this particular model wouldn't cut a perfect 45 degree angle I was disappointed, and began a hour long search for the previous model, the 1590 EVSK, which had been discontinued.

I had found a couple here and there that were factory refurbished, including one here on amazon. However those places that I had found that still had brand new model 1590s in stock, were raising prices way beyond the original cost of these, one found was as much as $325.00. Of course that was the extreme, but still others found were much more than the cost of JS470E shown on this page.

I couldn't believe that a company such as Bosch would manufacture a tool that had angle cutting capacity, and not be able to cut a 45-degree angle. Especially when there were no such complaints on the previous model.

So I called Bosch, first looking in their outlet stores for a refurbished 1590, explained what I had read in the reviews here, and got transferred to their tech support department.

I talked to a nice tech support representative and questioned him about this issue. He told me that they were aware of the reviews here on amazon, but that the JS470E 'will' cut a 45-degree angle.

He also mentioned that they have a tool free tech support telephone number right on the front page of all their tools, and all have a 30 day return policy. So I had to wonder why someone would spend the time to write a bad review on this product, instead of using that time to call their tech support department with this so-called issue.

I mentioned to them that they should post a review here with some information about cutting that 45-degree angle. Was told that they won't get involved in such matters, that they don't know who had posted such reviews, that it could have even been a competitor.

However when first hearing about this complaint, they did in fact pull one of these units off a shelf and test it to find out if cutting a 45-degree angle was in fact an issue with this model. I was told that they 'did not' find any issue with this model cutting a 45-degree angle.

I was told to feel secure in purchasing one of these despite these reviews and if I personally wasn't happy with the way it performed, to take advantage of their 30-day return policy.

After talking to them I felt a relief that I wasn't going to have to spend more money on their older discontinued model than what this newest model cost. Which by the way does have a better, larger motor in it.

I had also gained some additional knowledge in my conversation with tech support. One of the reasons I don't use a jig saw all that often is because of the blade flex, and getting a nice smooth, straight cut with these types of tools.

A common problem ever since these were first conceived... In my research I had found that most all larger manufactures lowered the blade guides to help with this issue, but still admitted that there will still be some blade flex when going through thick wood and other materials.

I was advised that first, use the shortest blade possible, as the longer the blade, the more flex you will have at the bottom of it. Also, to use high carbon type blades, as these would be much stiffer and not flex like standard type blades.

In reality, the blade flex isn't a factor of the tool, but in the blade itself. Something I discovered a long time ago. When this topic came up in my discussions, I asked why someone doesn't make blades to eliminate this, and that's when I was told to use the high carbon blades available on the market, and they will have more of a tendency to snap than to flex.

So all in all, a simple telephone call to the manufacturer, and I'm convinced that this newer model is the way to go, as opposed to overpaying for the previous discontinued model.


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